1 Reply by realmac

(14 replies, posted in Tricks and Tips)

At least for the moment, SUCCESS!

Navigating to "OneDrive-Personal" in File Explorer, I selected Settings.  Under the "Sync and backup" tab, I selected "Manage backup" and turned off everything.  Then, still in the Settings, I selected "Account" / "Choose folder", where I was able to deselect Documents.

That process left me with two Documents folders, one under OneDrive, the other, now without much of anything in it, under "This PC".  I still had the Juicebox install file in my Downloads file, so I reran the install, which ended up in the "real" Documents folder under "This PC".  I was able to open an existing directory, and the hoped-for editing options appeared.  Meanwhile, there is no longer a Documents folder in OneDrive, but as far as I know, there really wasn't anything significant in it before I disconnected the link with OneDrive.

This experience tells me that OneDrive is structured in a way that is fundamentally at odds with putting the user in control of the PC.  It gets in the way of ordinary management of what is on your PC.  I think it may be designed for too many, contradictory purposes that are entangled, when logic would dictate that they ought to be separate but able to communicate with each other when requested by the user.

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2 Reply by realmac

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PS:  At least under Windows 10, disconnecting the Documents folder from OneDrive isn't an option.  Not possible, the documentation says. 

So, the issue is to reconfigure JuiceBox so the files now in the Documents folder end up somewhere else, in a way that can be protected from OneDrive or other synchronization programs.  Since the whole point of such programs is to provide secure backup and recovery, an application that depends on files that can't be backed up seems somewhat out of step.

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3 Reply by realmac

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I had already noticed that the JuiceBox files ended up in the Windows Documents folder, and that, although I have no recollection of asking for it, OneDrive is in fact trying to manage that folder. 

But OneDrive is on a fool's errand here.  All of my computer activities are project-based, so I don't have a meaningful use for the Documents folder.  Instead, I use my own directory structure across two drives, with high-level folders for specific projects.  Seeing that whatever OneDrive is doing with the Documents folder is irrelevant to my actual requirements, I will need to disconnect OneDrive from that location, or else arrange somehow to host the JuiceBox files somewhere else.  What's the most straigntforward way to accomplish that?

If that change happens to fix the issues I've noticed, that would be great.  I think it should be tried before I dig deeper.

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4 Reply by realmac

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At first, I couldn't open a new gallery.  That problem was solved by replacing the latest version of Adobe Air with the suggested one.  The program still doesn't delete the .tempGallery, so I have to clean up after it every time I need to create a new gallery -- part of a large project that is coming along quite well.

However, I am unable to open an existing gallery, whether or not I have deleted the left-over the temp file.  The behavior is as reported by others, the open gallery dialogue lets me navigate to the gallery folder, which I select, but then just returns me to the select new/old gallery screen.  What I'm doing is quite simple, all of the required captioning is already in the source image files, but I would like to be able to tweak gallery information or settings or even work with individual photos, rather than deleting and recreating them in the event a minor change is required.

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5 Reply by realmac

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Photo Mechanic seems to have made the attempt to track down the IPTC documentation, so the terminology is as consistent as any I have found.  However, in my view, even IPTC has not been completely successful in defining a sound data model for metadata -- some very obvious needs, such as the original (often standard) format of a photograph being digitized for preservation, don't seem to be addressed and are left up to the user to co-opt some field intended by IPTC for a different data element.  As a result, digital materials from different sources or different operators are likely to be incompatible for purposes of cataloguing and accessibility.

On closer inspection, I was mistaken about how Windows File Explorer uses the metadata fields.  The one that File Explorer calls "Title" is in fact the one that Photo Mechanic calls "Description/Caption", which is the one Juicebox calls "Caption".  For my purposes, that still turns out to be the key to loading a Juicebox gallery with photos in the desired order.  For my usage, the "Caption" contains all the relevant description, and the Juicebox "Title" becomes superfluous.

A certain early innovator in data processing is supposed to have said, "Standards must be a very good thing, seeing that there are so many of them!"

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6 Reply by realmac

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Apparently, Juicebox is using IPTC fields in a way I don't understand.  The way the fields were originally defined and the way these fields are identified by different applications are inconsistent.

In Photo Mechanic, the field called "Description/Caption" is, as I expected, the field that Juicebox calls "Caption".  So far so good!

However, the field Photo Mechanic calls "Headline", which seems to be the field IPTC intends to be used for the "title" of an IMAGE, it not picked up when I ask Juicebox to use "Title".  This same field is also called "Title" in Windows File Explorer.

There are other fields in IPTC for other purposes.  One of them Photo Mechanic calls "Title/Object Name", which IPTC apparently intended for the title or identity of whatever thing (an art work, for example) is depicted in the image.  Is Juicebox using this field for the image "Title"?  (There are other fields in IPTC serving similar purposes!)

By the way, the often-asked question about copying images into a gallery in an order other than by file name may have a solution in Windows.  After adding metadata in the field File Explorer and Photo Mechanic use for title, I added "Title" to the File Explorer display, sorted by Title, selected all (Cntl+a), and dragged the group into Juicebox.  The photos were added to the gallery in the same, sorted order by "Title".

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7 Reply by realmac

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Deleting the contents of the .tempGallery folder and then the folder itself solved the problem.  I have a feeling this situation could be prevented by some additional code the next time the program is opened.  Thanks for your help!

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8 Topic by realmac

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I installed JuiceboxBuilder-Pro successfully a couple days ago (Windows 10 laptop), tried out the New Gallery process but elected not to save.  I came back this morning to try another test, but New Gallery doesn't do anything (stays on the initial New Gallery / Open Gallery screen).  Apart from Help, that's the only option available at this stage.  Suggestions?

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